COPPA, the FTC and Youtube content appealing to children.

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The biggest problem here is that this legislation is focusing on the wrong problem. YouTube, the owners of the platform, are the ones responsible for illegally collecting children’s information, so they’re trying to deflect the issue by blaming the content creators. Not to mention that parents should also be more responsible for monitoring their children’s Internet usage so that they aren’t exposed to questionable material on YouTube. Believe me, I’ve seen the weird side of YouTube multiple times, so I know how disturbing it can be if you’re not careful, but it’s all part of freedom of speech. YouTube is not meant to be an alternative to Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network; it’s a platform for information, entertainment, art (in all its various weird forms), and quite simply freedom of speech. In this situation, parents need to actually step up and be parents instead of letting the Internet raise their children, and YouTube needs to accept that it screwed up and has to pay the price instead of punishing the creators using their platform. If legislations like this continue, it will be a clear violation of our country’s constitution which allows free speech on all platforms, regardless of its content. Though given how the Democratic party has been trying so hard to take away freedoms to own firearms, practice certain religions, and even speak openly, this is just more par for the course. In my opinion, I’d just continue to speak openly and freely regardless of how many people are upset by it because 1) that’s a God-given freedom that all people have, 2) that’s the nature of language, 3) and to quote Abraham Lincoln “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.” If you always worry about who’s going to be upset by what you say or do, what’s even the point in saying or doing anything?

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How does one illegally collect info on children when you never really know if the user is a child ?

Never mind that the amount of data that YouTube et al collect is far more worrying.
As is the fact that most users give private info for a few cents discount or the ability to access a site.

Privacy is not dead.
The problem is that too few people realise how much of personall data they are sharing.

It’s the flockin’ cookie wall all over again.
That too resulted in a law that is impossible to enforce resulting in sites that try to force users into enabling all cookies (because disabling tracking requires an impossible to find ‘deny’ button)

And let’s not forget the toy industry itself is to blame for this escalating to this level.
I was recently watching an ad on tv where a ‘kid’ was advertising his (blatantly sponsored) YouTube channel …

COPPA is the typical solution that people without a clue as to how the world works invent to solve a problem by targetting a the symptom and not the cause.

So instead of telling Google / YouTube that they should not collect anything and sell that data they invent silly regulations that are impossible to enforce and/or that have fines that hurt the small channels more than the company that enabled them.

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How does one illegally collect information about a child?  Easy, you simply collect information about a child et voila, you have done so illegally.  Ignorance, as they say, is not a defence.

In this specific case I believe YouTube knew but was hiding behind their terms of service,  or trying to.  You can argue the toss about whether YouTube is responsible for under 13s accessing the platform or not. But they did know and they allowed it to happen

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Youtube was on the one side saying it is not for under 13, but on the other it marketed itself to big brands as someone who can market to under 13 year olds, thanks to all the data on them.
It’s like claiming to be an over 18 bar and then having a kids corner. Of course this wouldn’t fly.

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This sounds a bit more promising

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