[unofficial weekender] Scale and details

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Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.

First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.

You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.

If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.

A few other things to note: NO RELIGION & NO POLITICS! Glasgow pub rules are in effect. If you need to make a better point then it is fine, but don’t take the piss. And always keep it civil. This includes no philosophy, no home computer culture wars.

Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.

Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)

And don’t forget the highlights of the weekend: The Weekender on Friday and XLBS on Sunday. And the little show that is The Hobby Hangout over at twitch.tv

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Question of the week:

• Scale and level of detail on models: good thing or does it turn you off? The question appeared to me when this weeks Weekender talked about Wyldwood and its huge minis.

And now back to the show.

[sundancer 44867xp 1]

Pledge: finish the Gundam. It’s only 15 more days!

Answer: I don’t like big models with lots of details. When I try to paint such things they always turn out bad. So it’s rather a turn off for me. I am just a bad painter 😉

Some classic music:

[pagan8th 15354xp 2]

Pledge: Try to scratch build a location for my RPG. I’m not expecting to do it on one week… so do hold your breath.

I did buy some 75mm figures. I started them. I tried to do eyes. I can’t even do eyes on 75mm model. Bigger models just mean my mistakes look bigger and more noticeable.

My painted minis are best observed in a dark room, at night, with the lights off and my eyes closed.

[zoidpinhead 13067xp 2]

Pledge:  Gotta get more Orcs done before the next KoW tournament on Saturday.  Should be okay though.  They don’t take long.  Then need to pack for my trip to the Emerald Isle.

Answer:  I don’t mind doing a big model or two.  They can still be done with techniques that I use regularly, like wet blending.  I’m not sure I see the attraction for painters of increasing size.  I can see why designers do it, they can get more detail in and have more volume to make more interesting poses.  As painters though there can be a lot more work and the temptation to try and do them to showcase standard is very strong.  For those of us who game as well as paint that is a major ball ache.  Tabletop standard with such miniatures just takes so much longer to do.

Personally if I get to choose to go big it will always be in volume not scale.  Give me massed ranks every time over bigger models.

Songs In The Key Of Life is fifty on Monday.  Let’s have some Stevie:

[a27cromwell 3236xp 1]

I would rather have an overall correctly scaled figure or vehicle than one of questionable scale  with tons of fussy details to add or paint . I build lots of 28mm tanks and half of them include incorrect or over/under scaled pieces like tools and similar molded on bits . I would rather it was either a separate part or not molded on the kit at all . It’s much easier to add a piece from the parts box , or scratch up a piece needed than trying to remove some wrongly shaped thing wedged between 2 molded on bits you don’t want to ruin .

I spent 30 plus years building 1/35 scale kits and going smaller to 28mm took a bit of getting used to . Not many after market bits out there like in the 1/35 world but there are a few if you look long and hard enough .  Plus I can fit three 28mm Shermans on a shelf where one 1/35 scale tank used to reside . That’s great , tripling my vehicles on display without having to buy / build more shelves

I do have some larger 1/25 Tamiya kits from the 1970s in my stash , including that Tiger 1 with the interior . At the time it came out it was awesome , of course over the last 50 years we’ve discovered how much of the insides are hunches or guesses on Tamiya’s part . But it’s something I’ve always wanted and finally tracked down in an estate sale . I also have a 1/16 full interior T-34/85 from Trumpeter for when my eye sight starts to go

[danlee 22954xp 2]

This week’s pledge is to finish of the Rascaltown minis. I’m also running the 3D printer every day building my pile of potential back up a bit.

 

• Scale and level of detail on models: good thing or does it turn you off? The question appeared to me when this weeks Weekender talked about Wyldwood and its huge minis. – I’m happy to try a variety of scales. 28-35mm are still my default, bit a few years ago I did a 12mm (I think?) army just for the experience, and I’ve done a few figures up to 8″ tall.

[limburger]

detail needs to fit the scale.
it should leave room for your own interpretations while not forcing you to free-hand everything to make it look good (at tabletop distance).

And for the umpteenth time : a distance is not a scale.

Anyways … the spooky season is almost upon us.
Somehow I’m feeling inspired to do more 1:1 scale things.
Not quite sure if any of my plans will succeed, but I shall try.
Things will depend on the timely arrival of a few incoming packages …

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Someone needs to invent a sanity and IQ test before folk are allowed to back crowdfunding projects, because some of the comments on the recent updates for Warlord Games’ Vanguard project are … *eh* well words fail to express how, but they prove that “People are ze Wurst(tm)”.

• This reply was modified 3 days, 4 hours ago by limburger.

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Things will depend on the timely arrival of a few incoming packages …

That’s what the prostitute said to the bishop.

[horati0nosebl0wer 20631xp 0]

Pledge: get photos of mini commission before I ship them out

@zoidpinhead Large figures are easier to see… and easier to critique when I screw them up as well. They’re also more difficult to try and correct blending mistakes because of that same area. Its a mixed blessing as far as detail level.

I think that a divide for painting also comes with display versus play. We can imagine great things and sculpt in all the details but it might get lost when paint gets applied. Those same details can also break away when handling a model. (I’m looking at the frills to the rakshasa sash)

@pagan8th I feel the same sometimes about mine despite people saying “good job”

And these “incoming packages”… they’re discreet and unassuming, I assume? Is a trip to buy batteries or industrial lubricant required? Is upgrading the wiring in order or does an analysis for load bearing capacity in the house need to be done? These 1:1 projects can be quite intense compared to 28mm until we start talking shelves/storage.

Thinking about big models to big collections and storage. Does anyone else find it a PITA to look over display cases and see a pricetag worthy of heirloom items?

[sundancer 44867xp 0]

Does anyone else find it a PITA to look over display cases and see a pricetag worthy of heirloom items?

Not me gov’ner!

Because:

You need space to put up display cases. And I don’t have that. So I don’t look at them. I need efficient storage. But that’s just me XD

[zoidpinhead 13067xp 1]

I’m lucky enough to have a space that allows for two glass display cabinets.  One of my favourite things to do it to give them “a good coat of looking at”.  I don’t find their potential value to be burdensome.  I will doubtless have to downsize at some point in the next 20 years but that is an issue for future me.

[limburger 22632xp 0]

Surely that infamous Blue&Yellow furniture store has got to have some display cases worthy of your minis ?
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Packages have been delivered.
Well … I say ‘delivered’ but I should say ‘dropped of in front of my door while I was not at home’.
I can forgive this when it happens once, but to do it twice in the same week ? that is just plain evil incompetence.
Of course you can’t log a complaint, because you only ever get to talk to a dumb chatbot that can’t handle simple sentences.
*arrrhg*

You know it’s bad when the German delivery service does a better job than the locals that used to have the monopoly on all things postal.

no lubricant involved in any of this (get your mind out of the gutter … ).
One item even came pre-charged, so I only need AAA batteries for the remote.
Next up is a visit to the local DIY store for some additional supplies.

Too tired to do much now as I spent today listening to self-proclaimed experts talk about ‘AI’ and its impact on testing (snore fest is the word that comes to mind). Can’t say a lot of new stuff was mentioned, but at least some of them were aware that it’s not the silver bullet that management types appear to think it is (again … not exactly news for anyone using ‘AI’ for anything).
I suspect it was aimed at suits and not actual devs/testers.

Anyways … more hobby in the weekend.

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