Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp: Day Three
We're rounding off the Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp with more battles and we'll see how the campaign plays out on the tabletop that's been going on over the last few days. We've had a massive amount of fun getting stuck into the new rules and exploring how it's coming together as a game.
Competition Details
We're going to be running a competition for those who comment on the Boot Camp throughout the weekend. All you have to do is comment on the post here on the Live Blog to be in with a chance of winning...
- Flames Of War 4th Edition Rulebook
- Desert Rats Sourcebook
- Afrika Korps Sourcebook
- Rommel’s Afrika Korps Starter Army
- Monty’s Desert Rats Starter Army
- 25pdr Field Troop
- 8.8cm Heavy AA Platoon
If you want to pick up your own force for Flames Of War you can check out the two armies we're using with Monty's Desert Rats & Rommel's Afrika Korp.
You can also get all your Flames Of War 4th Edition Launch Weekend information from the Battlefront website.
Special Thanks To
Battlefront - The Army Painter
We hope that you enjoy the weekend and get stuck into some World War II antics with us!
Blogging At This Event:
The Sands of El Alamein Campaign – Making Your Own Campaigns
We stop in with Jim (oriskany) for the final day of the Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp and talk with him about how you make your own campaigns.
There can be a LOT of work involved with these but they are a lot of fun as you've been seeing here throughout the weekend as part of the Boot Camp.
If you have any tips and tricks for your own campaigns on the tabletop don't hesitate to drop them into the comments below!
Morning Games - Training For The Big Push
We're seeing a few more engagements come together for the Flames Of War Boot Camp this morning as they play out a final round of games before we move onto the BIG event later on today.
There is going to be one hell of a fight over the railroad...but before that we need to find out how the British and Germans are doing since last nights revelations.
Keep an eye out for more soon. Also, how cool do the tank tracks look when they've been left in the sand!?
Building With John - Afrika Korps Tiger Heavy Tank
We stop in for another build video for today with John as he paints up the Tiger Heavy Tank for the Germans and the Afrika Korps.
This is one of the sets that is going to be coming out in platoon for later on down the line from Flames Of War. So, if you're liking the look of it this should be a good build guide for you to get stuck into.
John & Justin Squeeze In A Game
Getting prepped for the full on battle John steps away from the hobby table to try his hand at a game with his force of British tanks and artillery.
He's facing off against Justin and we'll be stopping in a little later to see how things are going after a few turns of play.
Masking Techniques With Will - How Did It Turn Out?
John steps in and talks with Will about the masking technique he was using on his tanks to see how it turned out. It seems like it really was a pretty awesome use of an ingenious substance to get some very nice clean designs.
With that in mind we'd love to see how other people come up with camouflage techniques on the tabletop. This seems like a quick and easy way to do it though...if you have some faith in the hobby Gods!
John’s Camouflage Scheme Plans
John is control of the British and he's going to be trying out his camouflage scheme on the tanks he picked up for the Boot Camp.
They sound like they're going to be a very detailed set so it will be fun seeing how this turns out later down the line. Also, anyone for anymore of John interviewing himself?
John & Justin Square Off!
We find out how the game between Justin and John went and who thinks they're going to be coming out on top. Justin thinks he has the upper hand...John thinks differently.
Either way we've got a potential grudge match on our hands when the guys come to battling it out on the tabletop later in a big final game.
Food Time At The Boot Camp!
It's time to get stuck in and grab some grub from the Boot Camp.
The Boot Campers are going to need a hearty meal before they start fighting over the railroad at El Alamein
Enjoying The Boot Camp? Come Along To Our RuneWars/Army Painter Hobby Weekend!
If you\'ve been enjoying following the Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp make sure to come and check out our next Hobby Weekend featuring The Army Painter AND the epic RuneWars: Miniatures Game from Fantasy Flight Games.
We\'re going to be running a chilled weekend where you will be building and painting your armies for the Daqan (Humans) and the Waiqar (Undead) whilst also getting in a few battles too.
If you\'re interested check out this post here for more information...
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Campaign Mega Game - Introduction
We stop in with Jim, Mike and Igor to find out how the campaign mega game is going to work.
It's going to be pretty hectic but we're going to be following the action from one turn to the next and seeing how the achievements get unlocked too!
Achievement Unlocked - Objective Rush!
It's not even begun properly yet and someone has already won themselves some goodies from the pool of awesomeness.
Walking away with a signed rulebook we have bothi who got to the objective first!
The Game In Action!
Things are hotting up across the tabletop as we see each of the sides racing for the centre. We're going to have a catch-up with Mike soon who will give us a recap on the game so far.
For now, take in the awesomeness and see what's happening as the tanks trundle into place for a battle to end all battles in the desert.
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #1 Round Up
We stop in with the gamers and find out how Turn #1 has gone. It looks like the British have really pushed out in force to try and take the objective from the Germans.
Will this be a winning move or are we going to find ourselves facing some German guns blasting apart the British armour?
Wrecked Armour Litters The Battlefield
While the British have been able to push forwards in good order they were then blasted by the Germans in return. They were able to hold some of the objectives for a little while but the German guns don't tire.
While we're seeing a lot of fire escaping from the hatches of these tanks that doesn't mean they are down and out. There's much more to come and both sides have a chance to be exceptionally heroic today!
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #2 Round Up
We're catching up with things from the other end of the table for the end of Turn #2.
As you can imagine things have really been going dangerously for the British. Maybe one of their commanders has actually got the right idea and hung back, ready to counterattack against the German push.
Achievement Unlocked - Behind Enemy Lines
We find out just how sneaky the British can be as they slide in behind the rear of the German army and win themselves some goodies in the process.
Powering ahead they have pushed behind enemy lines and sighted the rear of the German tanks. Will they be able to cause from havoc?
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #3 Round Up (Jim VS Dave)
We're getting stuck into the middle of the battle now with Jim and Dave as they fight out a rather cautious battle around the objective.
The British hung back here, looking to sucker the Germans in. Will they be able to withstand the withering amount of firepower coming in from the British and hold the objective?
We shall have to see how this one turns out by the end of the day. Are we soon seeing the flanks cracking too?
Blood On The Sand, Smoke In The Skies
As we mentioned in our round-up video it seems like things are really coming towards a crunch time here on the tabletop. Flanks are breaking, armies are eyeing up their next targets, and it looks like some people are regretting their choice of tactics.
With that in mind we'd love to hear about any of the big mega games that you might be running for Flames Of War, or indeed any World War II games.
Get stuck in and let us know how you'd approach a game like El Alamein? Maybe we could get some Bolt Action into the mix too?
Achievement Unlocked - Broken Force
It looks like the first cracks are appearing in the line as the British have been routed and their force broken, turning the wheel of fortune in favour of the Germans.
Are they going to be able to make it work for them?
Achievement Unlocked - Side Armour Kill
It didn't take long! Some British Tanks swung round to exploit the German flank and have taken some pot shots at their side armour.
It's always good to see the underdogs doing well considering things are starting to turn badly against the British. Will they be able to hold out with some good shooting?
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #4 Round Up (British Flank Collapses)
We come back at the end of Turn #4 to see how things are doing for the British. Well...not well. The flanks have collapsed and they are pooling towards a fight in the middle of the tabletop.
How are things going to be resolved now that the forces are becoming more unmatched? We shall have to wait and see.
The Battle Hangs On The Edge
The battle is currently hanging on a little bit of a cliff edge as the flanks are breaking and things are focusing in towards the centre of the battlefield.
However, there are still stalwart sections of both armies valiantly fighting it out to the last to try and prevent a wash of vehicles moving up the field and into battle with their comrades.
This really has turned into quite the cinematic experience and people are really enjoying getting stuck into things, and generally having a good bit of fun!
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #5 Round Up (German Flank Collapses)
While the British lost their one flank, so have the Germans! Things are swinging towards the centre and Justin is...well...dead. No bones about it, he has fallen foul of the British!
Now the fight moves up the centre of the board towards where Jim (oriskany) is holed up. Will they be able to survive?
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #6 Round Up (Desperate Defence)
We stop off quickly to see how things are going at the end up this turn because things could be swinging any way right now.
The combat really has focused in on some brutal close quarters tank battling. It truly is special seeing the tabletop as it is, exploding with awesomeness. This has been a great Mega Game.
Time To Push The Line
Because of the way the game is set up some of the tables can't move up until they have managed to wipe out their opponent.
That means, mirroring a breakdown in communications, that we've ended up with some reinforcements not being able to push in towards the places where they are sorely needed.
Come back soon to see how this all wraps up.
Side Battle Prize Winner
As well as the main Mega Battle we've also been focusing in on some awesome battles elsewhere too.
With that in mind, we had to give out a prize, to celebrate them battling it out to help secure another battlefield on the campaign map.
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #7 Round Up (The Tide Turns)
We focus in on some key moments of the battle as things come towards their climax. With that in mind this truly has been rather fantastic.
The tank battles of 4th Edition are a lot easier to play out and the changes in the rules make FoW a very fluid game indeed.
Achievement Unlocked - Commander Killer
In the dying moments Tom was able to snag himself an awesome Achievement as his HQ was able to take out the enemy HQ unit.
This fellow has been holding out like a true champion throughout the whole battle and he has properly earned his stripes as a military commander.
Check Out Noyjatat's Desert Army!
Working exceptionally hard over the weekend Noyjatat from the community got stuck in and painted up his entire force over the last few days.
I think the models look fantastic and it's great to see someone approaching this from the hobby point of view rather than the gaming one. Both facets of our hobby are equally awesome!
How would you approach painting up your force?
Flames of War Bootcamp Overview
We wanted to put together a nice piece to show off what it was like getting stuck into the Boot Camp over the past few days. We really hope you enjoyed following along.
Make sure to check back for more Flames Of War content soon, and we hope you make it out to a Boot Camp in the near future to spend some time with us and your fellow community members.
Campaign Mega Game - Turn #8 Round Up: The Germans Win El Alamein!
And so we come to the end of the Mega Game...and the end of the Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp.
The Germans have rerouted history and changed things in their favour. Now the Germans might be able to delay future endeavours by the Allies and stop their plans.
It's now up to you gamers to find out what happened next. If you play out some games following on from this we'd love to hear from you.
Thank you for watching and following along!






























































































Hey I’m the first here 🙂
Can’t wait for the big battle keep up the good work guys
Can’t wait to see the outcome
Morning all. I wonder are we going to see anything special model wise today
We may indeed see something epic 🙂
It would be funny if they introduced Colossals or armored airships (ala Konflict 47) – but seriously, it would be cool to see some new sculpts or maybe have some armored infantry or recce brought in for the last day.
Good morning all , looking forward to the big battle and painted models
Hope you all have fun guys
So how many players will be in the big battle ?
Hopefully 10 vs 10 if it all works out!
Ah cool that sounds great
Happy Sunday! oh… wait…
Morning all, another day of tanks ahead
Good morning I hope your heads feel better than mine.
Need to dedicate a day of looking though all of these fully again to see it blow by blow
wanna see some nice tanks and the battle between justin and lloyd
Thank you for tons of amazing content.
Painted models… hmmmm
Hope we get to see a good battle between Justin and john
This is great to see guys. Really envious!
This is awesome, I have a decent sized Mid War British Motor Company, I’m just wondering how much, if anything I’ll need to buy in the near future.
woo! more quality content to keep me company while I paint. I hope we get to see some videos of complete games and/or more in depth gameplay review today. Plus looking forward to the mega game!
Well done on an enjoyable boot camp I have enjoyed the bits and pieces I have watched. It looks like you all had a blast.
I’m going to be in suspence all week to find out who won 🙂
Another defeat for me, can I pretend it’s because I let my son win?
Sure! I do the same thing in DZC with the youngest. You just have to act humble as well.
time for another great day in wargaming.
What a beautiful sunny day… oh yes, sometimes that big ball of thermonuclear fire and plasma is visible from Ireland. Now, back to the Desert War 🙂 Half a dozen update to drool over
Looks good from the perspective of someone who has never played but is into history. Can anyone suggest a good way to get into playing to see if I like it, but without needing to buy and assemble a huge force first.
Well battlefront are releasing a El Alamein starter set for v4. It includes a mini v4 rules, the cards, 1 grant and 2 crusaders and 1 panzer iii and 1 panzer iv. It’s rrp is £25 and you get some card terrain in the box plus dice and unit cards.
That’s probably you’re easy entry point into v4. From there you can expand with the full army boxes.
This boot camp is awesome.
The campaign against the videos have been great so far!
Good luck to all : )
have fun
Would love this set. My son is showing intrest in war gaming and this look to be a decent entry into it. But alas i dont have it nor do we have the money to get into it at this time.
“Not the beginning of the end, but perhaps the end of the beginning.”
This has really made me want to do two things:
Get my arse up to a boot camp for a solid weekend of hobby fun
Get stuck in to historical gaming
Of course, probably shouldn’t throw myself in to another project, but it seems like a perfect time to jump in.
Lazy Sunday morning – time to try and catch up!
Great boot camp and coverage as usual. Getting spoiled with all the great coverage the team is doing. Well done.
Everything looks epic. This boot camp campaign is awesome!
It’d be a blast to take part in a mega-game like that! I’ll have to catch up on the results after work tonight. Looks like everyone is having a good time!
Last day!! Lets get it on!
Can’t wait to get my hands on 4th edition.
A lot to catch up on just waking up across the pond. Today’s our local game day. Last V3 game week. Can really use that prize pack lol. My wife will thank you 🙂
Thanks for covering V4 I am excited to try it now!
With all that food, how do you guys find time to play? 🙂
Let the games begin!……again!
im still for the fearless british!!
Will there be a later video/discussion on what other units to consider to expand on the two starter bundles, especially from an Infantry perspective?
I wish I had space for a 24 foot table
Nice boot camp. I’ll have to try some of those came techniques when I get to my stuff.
Been interesting so far.
Nice boot camp. I’ll have to try some of those camo techniques when I get around to painting my stuff.
I think its really neat that they come in coloured plastic now, make them look great when your playing with them before you get around to painting them all.
I wonder whether forces of war will be updated soon
To match the new 4th edition rules
I will rewatch the bootcanp videos
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Some great tips today
Can’t make it to Ireland, but at least one of my gaming buddies and I and doing a Rune wars boot camp of our own that weekend if our pre-orders have arrived.
Can’t wait to see how the campaign and mega game turns out.
And day 3 begins.
I wish a had a ticket to that boot camp. It’s so awesome!
really enjoyed watching this, its got me thinking about getting into Fow again, so much so that I pre ordered the new el alamein starter box.
This is awesome. can not wait until release!
Thanks for the tips. I will certainly consider the vi edition starter box as a way in. Just need to figure out where to put all the stuff if I branch out into yet another war game. Will see what local clubs play flames of war, see if I can crash a game a two as well.
Good morning what the plan for today. Justin and John squaring off , did some say 10 on 10 match epic day
Mega battles can only be a good use of time, loving the alternate history aspect!
Excellent video by John on the Tiger. Both the model and the history was fun to watch.
Who fiddled with Warren and Justin’s images – far left of the group photo? Justin looks like he should be screeching ‘Ack Ack Ack Ack Ack’
Naughty but amusing
Oh – Ben and Lance too of course… where the Hell is John?
Anyone interested in playing flames in the Coleraine area should check out the causeway giants on Facebook and ask Jonathan Miller or james owens for a intro game
Been awesome to follow along this bootcamp
Thanks for all the content over the weekend beasts of war
Looking forward to the next boot camp
This is the first bootcamp I have followed and I have really enjoyed it
I like the way these boot camps bring the community together
Good luck everyone
Get something like this going on this side of the Pond.
Awww.. I was hoping for a Brit win. But wp to everyone involved!
Wish i could attend one of these.
nice bootcamp and gongratz to the africa corps, wel done rommel 😀
boot camp is truly awesome as it showcases the games, newest editions and other tidbits however, i really dont have any faith in the contests but that is mainly because to date i have never won a contest and im sorry but after 20+ years of entering contests i should have statistically won somethign by now but i digress. here is to hoping i win this time. keep up the great work beasts of war, loving the bootcamp vids
Hope all you campers are having a ball, wish I was there. Looking forward to V4 wirh anticipation!
Looks like those games were pretty awesome!
A great weekend of gaming!
Nice boot camp. You done a good job.
I will definitely check out V4 because of this boot camp. Thanks for all the great content this weekend
The Beasts of War Team is so awesome – each and everyone has their
unique experience and pespective. Oriskany and his campaign map
briefings give a new high level of Strategy to the Boot Camp Weekend.
And he make it all so accessible. Also, thanks Jason and Ben for the excelent ä job
as the Event Hosts.
These boot camp type things look great. Can’t wait to see the next event
Really enjoyed Oriskene’s campaign, added another layer to the weekend that worked well for those of us who could only watch from the sidelines
Wow just wow! finally got through all the coverage and this was seriously impressive. The BoW crew really know what they are doing and it looked to be a top notch weekend. Good on ya!
Looks like great FoW fun!!
Nice video!
Thanks for great boot camp videos!
good luck everybody
Great look through. It looked like you all had a blast of a weekend. This might get me to point up my sting of the scorpion pack I bought many years ago.
This bootcamp looks great. 4th edition looks like it works well.
I really liked @oriskany‘s campaign and lectures! Well done!!
Great coverage folks, well done all round
big battle looked fun! bet it was chaotic!
Love all the great info
I am waiting to pick up 4th edition at my local wargaming store, but maybe I will be lucky enough to win it.
I know the starter sets are mostly tanks but how important are infantry in FoW?
An annoying day of power cuts means I’m way behind on this lot!!!! Wait for me………
Great weekend wish I was there having fun to.
RIP Monty!
I was admittedly a bit skeptical about 4th, but it looks great and so keep up the good work. I’m loving this boot camp so far.
Mega-battle was great, but I like the final conclusion: This outcome was merely a delay of the inevitable. For a rewrite of history, the Germans would have had to do far better than the 6-1 collapse they had in the first round of battles, i.e. El-Alamein 1
Love it pick me pick me
Another great bootcamp
Boot camp looked like plenty fun.
Great show guys. I’m looking forward to the next one.
hi guys still loving the vidz cant wait for the sets to be released
Great Boot Camp, guys. Very jealous of all that took part!
Will battlefront be releasing new infantry for mid war in the future?
Looking Good Guys, Keep it up 😀
All this stuff looks so good. It’s a shame you didn’t have the mats arrive in time (if only because we didn’t get a weekender and some more Warren meets Mat segments).
The bootcamps always look so much fun.
I am serioussy thinking of buying some Perry Rats and AKs and some portee trucks and jeeps and panzer IIs & IIIs and some vivkers, mathildas, UC’s and covenenters.
Gonna have me a time.
Yeah, I know that’s all 28mm stuff but…I like the idea of some tan and yellow paint.
This was one of the best, if not the best, bootcamp weekends to watch.
Wish I could find a boot camp equivalent in the USA
Can wait to see what else you have in store while oriskany is there.
My only suggestion would be to get oriskany and John in a room with some flash cards naming campaigns, divisions, weapons and armour from WW2 and let them wax lyrical for as long as they want.
So much content to get through ….. normally takes me a week to catchup.
What a great addition it has been having Jim (oriskany) in, the guy seemed nervous as hell in his first few videos but seems to be getting in him groove. Nice work BOW team.
OK…. so i was looking at the starter sets for FOW 4th edition. eems to be a little confusing. Previously they had the Open fire starter set which was fairly fleshed out starter set, now they have a much cheaper starter set with only a few tanks. Is this really worth it? Whats its purpose? How does it fit into the overall Flames of war 4th edition “next buy”.
A great boot camp
Concerning the vid on unit sizes its worth noting the confusing differences between the US and British systems. For a ‘one battalion’ regiment such as 3rd Carabiniers or a regiment of an organizational corps such as 107th Regiment, Royal Armoured Corps, the regiment was essentially a US equivalent battalion. Most regiments were not combat units but rather umbrella administrations for several battalions which fought separately, often in different continents, e.g. The Duke of Wellington’s Regiment. Then there were regiments with misleading names such as The King’s Royal Rifle Corps which was not a corps like XXX Corps or XII Corps and The Rifle Brigade which was not a combat brigade!
Great games, really enjoyed what y’all had to share.
What a great final day!
I got here super late 🙁 was busy this weekend, but it seems stuff like this is fun.
Looks like everyone had heaps of fun well done guys
What a great weekender. Thanks guys.
a mega mega game
When will we see John and Justin’s battle?
I just realized how much content I am missing, but just watching youtube. :S
I admit it, I skipped a few. Still a lot of fun.
They do look much better when painted 🙂
Playing catchup from the weekend. Looked like another great event. Grats BoW
Very nice
How do you enter the competition? Do you comment on here?
souinds like a smashing good time had by all
Doing this as an after party.
Had a swamped weekend so wasn’t able to completely follow this life.
Thanks to all involved for a great gaming weekend that was exciting to watch.
Dang so far away and looks so good!
Can’t wait for the next campaign
This weekend looked amazing. Totally wish I was there…
What a great weekend!!
Well done guys!
That group photo, all the BoW’s guys have their faces morphed! XD
oh damn i missed all of the fun, but iam looking forward to get my rule book on saturday 🙂
Great videos as always! I am really looking forward to the Forth Edition!
The mega game looked great fun.
It occurs to me that my comments in the last campaign video are a little misleading. Yes, the Germans won (badly won) the last big mega game, and so largely halted this part of Operation Supercharge in our campaign. However, for those who have been following, the huge British lead built up during the early turns managed to carry them through.
After the boot camp I did the math and presented the final results, but this was in a “green room” thread for backstagers only. For those interested, the full results of the BoW Boot Camp El Alamein campaign are posted in the images linked below:
Campaign Turn 01:

Campaign Turn 02:

Campaign Turn 03:

Campaign Turn 04:

Campaign Turn 05:

FINAL RESULTS: British 18.5 – Germans 16.5. Even after the big German win in the final mega-game, the campaign comes down to a naaaarrow British victory.
Woow there are a lot of comments seems like v4 is going to be a big thing