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  • #1974586
    sundancer
    44513xp
    Cult of Games Member

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    First time visitor to OTT? Then please introduce yourself in the New Member Thread and look around in the Project System. Then come back and read on…

    https://www.ontabletop.com/forums/topic/introduce-yourselves-new-member-thread/

    https://www.ontabletop.com/project/

    Read all of this before you start as it will save you any trouble later.

    First thing you must do is make your “pledge”. It can be anything gaming related, big or small, and you don’t even have to finish it. No, in here, happiness is the road. Have fun doing whatever it is, but it is not a race. Accompany your work with pictures or we might think you are do something sinister and just using us for cover.

    You are also presented with a few questions. It is to get the conversation started. Try and keep your answers ‘conversational’, no text speak, and certainly no “basically”. This is how we all get to know each other better. While you are here feel free to tell us a story, show a picture, joke, tales of love or woe, or just add your own little bit. This is the whole point…in here it is just us.

    If you have never taken part before we may bark and bite, but we also like a cuddle! It is all done in the best possible taste and it is character building. feel free to give as good as you get.

    A few other things to note: NO RELIGION & NO POLITICS! Glasgow pub rules are in effect. If you need to make a better point then it is fine, but don’t take the piss. And always keep it civil. This includes no philosophy, no home computer culture wars.

    Play plenty of music to go with your work. Loud and through proper speakers. Write us a playlist of things we might not have heard before.

    Now, after all of that there is only one ‘real’ rule in here and it cannot be broken: NO DICKS! (Exceptions may be made for little fighting men with little plastic/resin/metal wieners)

    And don’t forget the highlights of the weekend: The Weekender on Friday and XLBS on Sunday. And the little show that is The Hobby Hangout over at twitch.tv

    If you fancy to see some nice WIP pictures go to the WAYPN thread https://www.ontabletop.com/forums/topic/what-are-you-painting-now-2025-edition/

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    Question of the week:

    • What is more important to you in a miniatures wargame: fun and humour or highly balanced gameplay?

    And now back to the show.

    #1974589
    sundancer
    44513xp
    Cult of Games Member

    Pledge of the week: scrub some metal bugs and begin final assembly.

    Answer of the week:

    Fun, definitely fun. Even with the most balanced games I get my ass handed to me so why even bother? Plus it’s always way more satisfying to see someone get really annoyed when “that one unit” just does not die/go away that I’ve fielded for no other reason then to have fun.

    Music, fresh from the fields:

    #1974591
    zoidpinhead
    12933xp
    Cult of Games Member

    Pledge:  Keep plugging away with the DoW minis.  I’m still working on the big archer unit.  I’m liking how it is looking but haven’t had much time at the painting desk for the past couple of weeks.  Meanwhile I’ll be dancing around in tiny circles trying to contain my excitement whilst waiting for my discount KoW minis to arrive.

    Answer:  Fun!!  That’s why I do most things but particularly hobby.  That said I enjoy working on an army list and it helps if the system is well balanced as this gives you the impression that you have an even chance at getting your army in a good state/better than last time.  This is of course an illusion as I often get thrashed due to my very aggressive gameplay style – everything charges all the time 😀  That too is fun, regardless of the outcome.

    How about some Nu Metal today for a change:

    #1974599
    pagan8th
    15268xp

    Pledge: Tear myself away from the Marvel Universe RPG campaign that I having so much fun writing long enough to get some paint on Phoenix for MCP.

    As for the question… I’d like to quote Slartibartfast, “Far rather be happy than right”.

    My 7TV casts are designed around which mini looks coolest.

    My Dead Man’s Hand ‘Daughters of the West’ are chosen partly for the weapons they hold, but mostly because I like them.

    Although I don’t play Warmachine/Hordes anymore, I bought Circle Orboros and Cryx armies because they look cool.

    I bought a motorcycle and sidecar for Bolt Action Afrika Korps because I like the mini even though I think it has a life expectancy of one dice roll when it moves into range of an enemy.

    So in summary… balanced gameplay is for tournaments and people that want to win.

    I play with friends and want to have fun, even when the dice are determined to make sure that my favourite miniature dies in the first round of combat.

    #1974600
    Lazagram
    135xp
    Cult of Games Member

    Pledge – Must try and crack on with my Paint Comp entry, something Noble. I have something in mind. Then back at the horde of Orks 🙂

    What is more important to you in a miniatures wargame: fun and humour or highly balanced gameplay? Fun and humour win out every time. Hopefully, all games are ‘balanced’, but it’s the fun ones you want to play.

    #1974620
    grantinvanman
    10319xp

    Pledge: work on Nurgle Manticore Lord for Old World.

    Fun or Win at all Costs: FUN! Always. I never set out to win, that’s a happy coincidence. Hard core tourney gamers can be fun, but usually are not.

    #1974659

    Pledge: Finish all my current projects before starting any new ones (not very likely).

    Question: it depends on what you mean by “balanced gameplay.” If you mean meta-chasing and optimizing army lists to win at any cost, then of course fun wins out — I would much rather lose at something that’s thematic and/or narrative than win at something that is not. I appreciate that to many gamers winning is the most important thing, and that’s what makes it fun for them, but that’s not why I play games.

    However, even if you’re playing for fun, games still need to be balanced. Rules need to make sense and be consistent, and all the players need to feel like they have agency and can make meaningful decisions during the game. Games that turn on arbitrary dice rolls, or where one side is hopelessly outclassed by the other, aren’t very fun (at least, not in my experience).

    Short answer: both, as long as the balance is contributing to the fun rather than detracting from it.

    Music: apologies if I’ve posted this before, it’s one of my favorites and I tend to post it a lot.

    #1974692
    pagan8th
    15268xp

    Found these is Lidl this week at £5 a set.

    IMG_20260516_060724

    Already have some of the drills, but they do break easily when using on metal, so spares are good and the little saw blades may be useful when I’m terrain building. They also had needle files at the same price, but I have a good set of them.

    Just sharing the information in case anyone in UK needs to buy any.

    #1974694
    sundancer
    44513xp
    Cult of Games Member

    So the majority here is with “fun”. I like that.

    @pagan8th  the one on the left: is that just a handle for the jigsaw blades or can it do anything fancy? I’ll take a look if our Lidl offers them as well.

    edit: they where. some time ago. All sold out.

    #1974701
    danlee
    22888xp
    Cult of Games Member

    This week’s pledge is to finish my painting competition entry. Just down to the facial features and base to do, but I’ll be going for a marble effect on the base so it may take a while.

     

    • What is more important to you in a miniatures wargame: fun and humour or highly balanced gameplay? – Fun, but it’s still important that the balance isn’t too one-sided.
    #1974702
    pagan8th
    15268xp

    Yep! It’s a handle for jigsaw blades @sundancer But there are times when you need precision not speed with crafting, or something that will fit in a small space, so I think I will get some use out of it. And £5 is barely a pint of beer in the pub.

    #1974703
    grantinvanman
    10319xp

    Happy Victoria Day long weekend. In my 25 years of living in Alberta, it’s NOT snowed maybe twice. Today:

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    #1974704
    pagan8th
    15268xp

    You are so lucky getting snow so often 🙂

    We had maybe two days of it this winter.

    #1974711
    grantinvanman
    10319xp

    @pagan8th 😂

     

    #1974739
    templar007
    52402xp
    Cult of Games Member

    Pledge:: this weekend I’m reading through the 400 page core rulebook of ‘By Fire and Sword’ (not part of the second edition wave).  After Gerry profiled the system of ‘By Fire and Sword’ I’ve been buying the second edition books and some army boxes, but in my own deep dive I kept coming across the large 400 page book and seeing that it had everything in it, plus much of the history was included within that volume.   After bookmarking some sites that claimed to have had it in the past I finally found one in stock and snagged it!

    It’s been a very interesting read.

     

    Question of the week:

    What is more important to you in a miniatures wargame: fun and humour or highly balanced gameplay?

    Answer ::  FUN……..after diving into a game I can always write my own house rules to balance out anything that I think is sucking the fun out of the game.  Also, I generally walk away from any gaming opportunities that are in the presence of a “Captain Alphastrike”.  CA’s, in my experience, aren’t GAMERS.  They don’t enjoy a game, they only enjoy crushing an opponent.  The game doesn’t matter to them, just the adrenaline rush of dominating someone.  It’s hard to have fun in that kind of match.  ……………… OK, I’ll step down off of my soapbox now. 🫣

    Fun, a good looking army full of character and a back story.

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