Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp: Day Two
We're back for day two of the Flames Of War 4th Edition Boot Camp as the budding generals get stuck into their forces and begin to play out more games and get in a bit of hobby time too!
Competition Details
We're going to be running a competition for those who comment on the Boot Camp throughout the weekend. All you have to do is comment on the post here on the Live Blog to be in with a chance of winning...
- Flames Of War 4th Edition Rulebook
- Desert Rats Sourcebook
- Afrika Korps Sourcebook
- Rommel's Afrika Korps Starter Army
- Monty's Desert Rats Starter Army
- 25pdr Field Troop
- 8.8cm Heavy AA Platoon
If you want to pick up your own force for Flames Of War you can check out the two armies we're using with Monty's Desert Rats & Rommel's Afrika Korp.
You can also get all your Flames Of War 4th Edition Launch Weekend information from the Battlefront website.
Special Thanks To
Battlefront - The Army Painter
We hope that you enjoy the weekend and get stuck into some World War II antics with us!
The Sands of El Alamein Campaign - Map Unit Sizes
We check back in with James (oriskany) to find out more about the campaign map which you're going to be seeing battled over this weekend.
The focus is on Map Unit Sizes for this video. Hopefully by the end of the weekend this isn't going to all feel like it's Greek to you!
FoW 4th Edition Demo Game - Learning The Rules!
We stop in with Mike and Igor and learn the basics of Flames Of War with them over a couple of turns. You'll get to know the basics of moving, shooting and more as they battle it out with the British and German forces that the Boot Campers will be playing with.
With that in mind watch out to see how the games play out across the day and we'll be back soon.
Oriskany's El Alamein Campaign Begins - Battle For The Centre Ground
We catch up with Oriskany (Jim) and find out how we've been playing out the first game of the 'campaign'.
It looks like we're going to have some serious battles for the centre ground here today. So, with that in mind we'll dive in and find out how the gamers are getting on in a little bit.
Hobby Time - Washes Are Great!
We take a look and see how quickly you can get stuff onto the tabletop.
Take a peek at some of the massed ranks of tanks and artillery that folks have been working on today which has turned into some rather special armies.
Washes appear to be your best friend!
Community Games - James Vs Wayne
We stop in with James (oriskany) and find out how his game went from the first round of campaign battles.
Things seem to be exploding all over the place which is in one sense a great thing...and in another, pretty terrible for the Germans.
We'll be catching up with more of the gamers over the next hour or so to talk to them about their games.
Community Games - Dave Vs Michael
We stop in with Dave to find out how his game has been going today. You might remember him from yesterday as he was building up his big army to play out games on the tabletop.
There may have been some deadly explosions involved in this particular game...right across the battlefield by the looks of it.
Community Games - John Vs Andrew
We see how John and Andrew are doing as they get stuck into their game which is taking place within a built up area.
This provides you with some more interesting options AND plenty of cover too which is cool. We will be catching up with oriskany soon to find out how the campaign has gone and where we're heading off to next.
Oriskany's El Alamein Campaign Begins - A German Counter Push?
Things have been heating up as we move towards the end of the day. We focus in on some more of the key areas where people have been battling it out.
This also means that we have to look ahead to how these last engagements are going to go towards the end of the day and where we'd like this to go tomorrow.
Justin's Game Of The Day
Justin managed to get in a game of his own and it hasn't been going too well. In his own words it looks like he might have got a bit 'shafted' by some big guns.
We hope that he is going to have some better luck over the next day as he gets stuck into some big games and more.
Day Two Round Up!
We bring day two to an end and get stuck into a look at the campaign map. We have got something awesome stacked up for tomorrow so make sure you come back and find out about the MEGA GAME!
Yes, we said MEGA GAME. It has to be shouted. We hope you join us for the awesomeness tomorrow.
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Good luck everyone.
Those Crusader tanks look so cool!
Looking forward to following this all day
I hope you all have a great day. Looking forward to seeing the results of the campaign. Wish I could have been there with you all 🙁
And so begins the second day of tiny wee men in the sand.
Have a brilliant sunny day in the desert boys
a couple of the questions I have at this point:
I play Americans 1943. And I was wondering why they haven’t released more of the new formation sheets.
And will the digital forces charts on the forces.flamesofwar.com be updated to this new format, or will I have to buy the new ones seperately?
Really Looking forward to this!!! We have just returned home from a 9 month deployment! just in time for some awesome 4th edition action!
Questions!
what happened to “Jumbos Lead the Way”??!!
Do Aircraft range in every time now with bombardment attacks from bombs and rockets?
Jumbos lead the way is gone, it’s just the mistaken target rule now.
I believe aircraft self spot for there own bombardment and they range in as usual. They come in on a 4+ now and if shot down they don’t return..
Put some very bright light up (sun) over those tables, and turn on the heat to a nice 44 degree Celsuis, to get that blury hot visions over the sands, and have a real desert feeling when pushing those tanks across.
Here’s wishing you guys a fantastic day of playing!!!
Best of luck to everyone involved! Can’t wait to see the results!
Have fun and take a lot of pictures 😀
Oriskani’s tutorial on battle diagrams was particular highlight from yesterday. Hoping for more of the same.
Thanks very much, @cwen . YES, we do have some more coming on Sunday. 😀
After a cold night under the desert stars, my guess is the forces can’t wait to get warmed up!
Looking forward the first game!
Can’t wait to get my hands on the new rulebook
Painting up a sherman 3 now while watching some great fow content 🙂 doesn’t get much better than thisn
Wot no Ulster Fry for breakfast?
Should be manditory!!!!!!!
Man, this release looks great. Never much cared for the desert war, but this may turn me around.
This stuff has never really taken my fancy until now, but I reckon I could really get into desert warfare.
Just waking up in the USA, sounds like all are having a great time.
Wish our tables looked at good as these! 😀
Seems like another well-organized BoW-Bootcamp for 15mm-gamers – keep it going!
Day 2 here we go.
Have fun!
i haven’t gamed much in the desert. This might just be the inspiration I need.
good luck to everyone!
looking forward to seeing the fun unfold! and of course the prizes are looking ace!
It’s great when the community at large is welcoming.
I’m kinda liking the sound of 4 edition
Have fun
This has really gotten me interested in the deserts war
Can’t wait to see the new model releases over the coming months
I wonder when we will see italians
I’m quite new to the bow website , what’s karma and how is it earned?
Just finished painting up my sherman 3 not looking to bad considering its been about 5 years since I painted a miniature
I hope you can show some close ups of the painted models.
Looks like an excellent use of a weekend! Can’t help but love the desert rats.
Ok, so now I need to brush off my own models and get playing again. Hanks for estoring my FOW mojo
Start the campaign
Thanks guys. I’m new to gaming and I have been binge watching your battle reports and tutorials for weeks now trying to find the perfect game system for me and my son to enjoy together. Your videos have been so helpful. We live history and are looking at Flames of war and bolt action, but I think the model size of flames is up our alley. I’m excited to see how 5th edition plays out.
Great looking tables guys. Hope you keep them available to the Giants when we’re in bow towers
Tables look awesome.
Like Warren, FoW was my first foray into historical back in 2008. Haven’t looked back since and I am really looking forward to 4th ed!!
So many tanks! That map is killer and those 88s look sick! I wasn’t a huge fan of this period of the war, but this boot camp is starting to change that.
The campaign looks quite interesting!
Thanks, @lblunchboxlb
Looking forward to the new rules… lets hope too much flavor wasn’t lost in the streamlining.
Late in the day for the boot camp but time to check in and see how day 2 is going.
good luck everyone I hope the good old rats win this one overall! and I love the scenery, its absolutely amazing!!!
Have fun and good luck for this week-end…..
Looks like a ton of fun, excited to see how the campaign runs.
I was hoping for more images of the finished armies. I really want to see how the desert camo paint themes have been applied.
Will see if we can get some close ups for you chap
Great looking stuff so far
Looking to be a good day. Enjoy!
Got the 3rd edition rule book but never tried the game. need to make time for a go.
I finally found one of these at the start of boot camp instead of after it!
Keep up the gaming “work”!
Looking forward to following the games later today
Happy Saturday and good luck everyone. Really looking forward to how the campaign goes.
Oh, it gets interesting, @m30wm1x . 😀
Yesterday was good am enjoying day 2 just as much so far. What does day 3 have in store….
Those acrylic explosion markers are pretty sweet. Also, thanks to Oriskany for the video explanations!
No worries at all, @cerberus1987 – they’re fun to do! 😀
Good luck to all!
Loving the boot camp so far guys how are you finding the new cards
Let the carnige begin
Hah, Italian armor = self propelled coffins! Keep up the amazing work.
Man, I need to find more time to paint!
Looking good guys. Have a blast.
The looks really good!
Got to convince my wife we need to hop across for one of these
Looking forward to seeing more tank on tank action.
So looking forward to try-out midwar.. been waiting a while for v4…. and i think it will be great..thanks also to you guys for the great preview…
Too bad i never win prizes 😉
Have fun lads
Love the new FoW models, big fan of the Afrika Korp. Must get the new German Heavy Artillery in plastic.
Great videos!
Have guys:)
ok work done. baby is playing, time to watch some flames !
Been really enjoying all these videos
And content
This is the first boot camp I’ve tuned into and it seems like it’s not only great for the people who go , but it brings the community together to one place I defonatly feel more connected to the community
I’ll be sure to check out other boot camps and community events etc thanks very much Bow for all the content
May the best team win
Can’t wait to get my hands on the v4 rulebook
Aventi Savoia!
Have fun guys : )
looking good ,
I am in love with the Grants, and the panzer 3 I don’t know which army to play 🙂
It’s flames you’ll end up with them all, it’s just the way 😀
Really enjoying following along with this!
Have fun in the sun lads
I’ve missed so much today…. oh well better get stuck in
Any LW V4 games scheduled today. Would luv to see how V4 works with my LW
Are the soldiers plastic as well. If so that would be awesome.
these plastic kits looks so much better than those older resin/metal kits.
FoW was my intro to historical wargaming, Can’t wait to try out the new rules!
I will make a boot camp, I will make a boot camp….
This is really tempting me to get back in to flames of war.
I had a girlfriend who ran a games shop when it first came out, so I started to collect it then. Sadly my interest in the game died with the relationship. This is really peaking my interest
Great stuff, always love following along with the bootcamps
Looking forward to getting to try out the new rules; Mid-war’s been my favourite era, and I feel like it hasn’t really gotten much play, at least locally. I am a tad disappointed that Italians/Americans/Vichy don’t appear to be on the immediate horizon, though, as a French armoured company is on my to-do list in the not-too-distant future.
Great coverage lads and have fun
Looks so much fun!
Hope it’s all going well
cant wait for the tiger 1s they will be epic
kings of the desert
Great looking games, I need to unearth my Desert rats from my loft
Here’s to a fun day two!
seems like a real fun game
Been out all day so looking forward to a day two binge. Particularly how will the campaign element add to the day.
ah im going to be in suspence all week 🙂
Looks like good fun! Wish I could be there!
Those desert tables!! Damn they’re good, do you have any tips for creating your own?
Tables look great. Tanks for all your work…..(groan)
So can we continue commenting until the weekender or does it only count for today
Great boot camp so far, inspired me to pre-order the rulebook.
Hoorah get at it
Thank you for the comprehensive coverage – and a comprehensive event. Amazing. I played a little in 2nd edition and moved into Bolt Action, but 4th edition looks great and I’m thinking of coming back…
Looking forward to the MEGA GAME tomorrow! =D
Another great day of gaming and viewing. Might have to revisit FOW, i found FOW 3 a little slow with lots of rule book stoppages! It looks like the new rules (and cards) will speed things up considerably.
Kieran give Tom a cuddle from Katy (and me)
those tables look great
Spent a few hours watching and learning. Makes me want to buy Crusaders and Lees…great job
Love to see more of the german tanks
good morning 15mm on a 4×6 is just right size. i have try Boltaction tank wars at 15mm and it awesome
The new plastic minis look great
I was not expecting the Brits to be so good.
Well I had work the past 2 days so looking forward to watching these updates in real time tomarrow.
Love the tables with all the buildings. Hope Oriskani will explain how he ran the units of the map too!
Very simple, @gunnyhighway . If the players won, their units moved forward. If the players lost, they moved back. Other than that, units moved, attacked, and defended historically,
Mega Game after a mega weekend! Can’t wait!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Exciting stuff!
Great day of exciting battles, can’t wait to see what you have for tomorrow.
C’mon you Brits! Going well so far.
Fantastic showing.
good luck all
Truly awesome looking tables.
Where did those awesome looking acrylic destroyed markers come from that are in the picture titled “Heat in the heat”?
They look really ace.
Just caught up on day 2. Going to miss large parts of day 3 as I am traveling.
Will see the the rest tonight or tomorrow, but it will probably ruin my chances of winning one of the prizes 🙁 have a good day all.
Great content as always.
Have Fun all, looks good 😀
Someday, someday, I’ll make it to a boot camp! Keep up the good work, and enjoy e rest of he day’s gaming!
Great stuff guys, have fun 🙂
All looks great, i am totally inspired to get my Desert Rats finished (and I guess expand with the new sets, Salute purchase planned
Hey warren you look in that s video like you’ve lost quite ah bit of weight man! good for you!
This could be good. I’ve been wanting to get back into mid-war and Africa for a while.
Love your videos always informative and interesting.
Have a great day
damn, I’m going to have so much to catch up on later today…
Looking forward to the new book.
Like the idea I can take my old one in and get two upgrade books for free.
Hopefully my local store will start a games club for this.
Flames of war v4 🙂
i’m so happy
ahh time for me to watch day 2
Bootcamps are really good to catch up with. Its encouraging to see armies getting assembled quickly. The Western Desert has generally left me cold as a theatre in WW2. Increasingly though I am becoming a Battlefront fan and seeing this all come together I will have to pick this up.
How the guys are having fun 4 th edition look good
Day 2 looks great . Everyone seems to be having to much fun dohhhhhh.
Hoping to get a look of the new rules soon.
I’m enjoying this weekender. Great job, guys.
Really enjoying this series.
Seems like a brilliant weekend guys.
Thanks for the heads up Ben on the SAS programmes
It looks like you’re doing a practice run for the upcoming Hobby Weekend. So many bootcampers busy assembling and painting their armies instead of playing games.
That plastic looks awesome
Hey, maybe for once I’ll actually win one of these. I’ve got a buddy that would love those Brits, and I had already been thinking of trying North African Panzers even before news of the edition change came out.
Nice game tables. I’m a big fan of the sponge padding hills and rocks.
The more I see of this gamethe more I start really liking the idea of 15mm gaming.
I have not played FoW before but I am going to now. I really like what I am seeing.
Just love the desert campaigns, It sounds like the list building is much less confusing than in 2nd and 3rd edition
Seems like the 4th edition has moved much closer to the Team Yankee ruleset. Is that a fair comment?
I´m so looking forward to get my copy of the new rules. And to get my v3 sticker next weekend. I i should be so lucky to win that mega bundle. i will give my oldest son, the chance to get into the game, whit the new rules. And the bootchamp vidieos, will be a great help, learning the rules.
overall i wonder which of the two forces will prove to be the better? I feel the the germans have a good chance but seem to be falling short of the mark, very interesting
What a cool battle. The difference between the two versions is quite subtle, but it makes very interesting game play and can result in a complete different play dynamic.
Good to see the forces coming together. Love the painting stuff in the blog.
Yes sir… having great fun catching up on the weekends events
Looking very good.
Seems to be a nice weekend.
Now this is a flames of war for the win in style, live vlogging. Very cool. With such a range of options, still not sure about this is a WW2 rules set to get into, but you make it darn tempting…
Great day 2. Loved the demo game.