September 5, 2011 by darrell
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Darrell gives us a bit of advice on how to judge range when using heavy weapons.
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Outstanding video, Darrel.
This isn’t cheating in the slightest. It’s simply helping you judge a range by sacrificing a shooting phase from a lesser unit, so that you can judge your range for others. This video has certainly helped me, also it would speed things up somewhat.
Always having problems with my Sternguard because I wanna get them in close range for maximum damage, although the problem leaves them open to possible assault. Thanks for the tips. Brilliant.
Any chance on tactics for protecting Troop choices when capturing/holding points that are easy targets and open to getting cleaned out very quickly from range/close combat please?
There’s no love like TH/SS love :-p
great video
I wouldn’t call it cheating. It is using the rules to your best advantage. The entire pre-measure thing has always been a thorn in the side issue for me, all these big tanks and they don’t have any targeting? But, that’s just me being too picky.
Of course, one of the guys I have played against several times is a carpenter by trade, and that guy can estimate ranges to near perfection.
its not cheating but its not exactly in the spirit of the game and imo not far from having a cheeky measure while your opponent is in the loo. This isn’t cheating but it is bad form
Most definitely not cheating. After all, it did cost your Scouts their shooting phase so it’s not like you’re getting to measure the distance for free. Good vid, Darrel
I don’t see this as cheating at all, infact, you used your scouts to do their job, to find the range of the enemy.
im considering scouts now just to find the ranges of stuff
Hi Darrell,
well you’re right that’s not actually cheating…
but it’s cheesy and very unsporty in the mind of playing strategy games where you must judge your ranges.
Guess that’s the reason why i prefer to game with friends just 4 fun and not at tournaments.
Everybody got its gaming style… as long as youre happy with yours stay with it.
And sorry i would not play with you:/
i love to play and for me it’ all about winning not with cheesy tricks. i wanna win because i am better with strategy and range finding.
More than winning is having fun…
That’s just my 2Lascans 🙂
Cheers Birdy
lol it’s pretty cheeky, rather than cheating ha ha.
But I think it’s a good idea to have a “you can pre-measure everything” rule, like in Warhammer 8th, as this totally removes this sort of thing. At first I didn’t like that rule, but it made got rid of a lot of agro.
Another great vid, is equally useful for guess/barrage weapons
Don’t see why they made a rule that stops you pre-measuring it’s not like space marines wouldn’t have range finders in their advanced optics
Its an abstraction for rules balance that doesn’t match the fluff, but its not just marines that suffer, almost everything in 40 should have a range finder, even the orks could just draw a little picture on a bit of the gun and scribble “if its litler dan dis its 2 far” beside it.
Wow, I am surprised that there is something that’s beneath even Darrell…
Cheating is breaking the rules, this doesn’t break the rules. I don’t think its even cheesy. I think if real units would have a better perception of whether they’re in range or not than we tabletop players do and perhaps this is reflected by the opportunity of taking range finding shots.
I have been a dwarf player for about 6 years and always loved using cannons and stone throwers but before 8th ed fantasy i had guess my range alot and therefore i dont need to waste units on checking range 9 out of 10 times i know if im in range of the vechile im shooting at because im so use to guessing. it also helps if you remember the dimensions of the table for example the table is usually 4ft long (48 inch) if you deploy 12inch from table edge and want to shoot your heavy bolter it is likely you will just about hit them with its range of 36, but in general good tactic especially for new players
I can’t imagine wasting a unit’s shooting for this, but maybe if I was desperate. In our LGW and at home, we use mostly the Realm of Battle boards so that gives 2’x2′ chunks to help estimate range (just remember the pythagorean formula). It’s only hard in things like apocalypse with huge tables. Practice by placing measured terrain as well to help train your brain.